by Søren Espersen
It suddenly hit me this morning when I read a story about some systematic tax evasion by a group of Somalians: in Jyllands-Posten: What the Hell are 16 943 Somalians even doing in Denmark…?
Suddenly? Like, you woke up one morning and thought “You know what? I have NEVER thought like this. But nearly 17 000 people can be generalised into a bloc and told to go home!”
It wasn’t so much that a group of them had cheated their taxes, that’s something that even Danes excel in, nah, it was more about what are 16 943 Somalians doing in Denmark instead of being home in Somalia because of the Jyllands Posten’s side story next to the big story on tax.
So in many ways, those Somalians are pretty much integrating properly as tax evasion is almost a national sport here in Denmark.
In the article: “Somalians are the least well integrated in Denmark” it was reported that the Somali community in Denmark is a total parallel society, made up of people who are completely isolated from the surrounding country and where families and clans rule. An expert from Roskilde University Shahamak Rezaei said to the paper that it is basically about how migrant families place their loyalty in as much as “it looks like they think more about me-and-mine and in that way live in a parallel existence”.
I don’t mean to come over all “but their mommy lets them do it!” but what you are describing is exactly how Danish-background families are in Denmark. They don’t give a fudge about anyone else, beyond their family and sports club… possibly colleagues. I have heard of people breaking bones in the street and being ignored by those who pass by them. Where’s the loyalty to people in Denmark there?
It also describes a lot of immigrant groups of Danes abroad. I don’t understand why you think this is necessarily a Bad Thing, Søren. This is what people do when they expatriate.
The paper reveals that Somalians are completely divorced from other immigrant groups by having a large systematic money collection universe from which millions of kroner every year, via Dubai, are sent to clans in Somalia. The expert from Roskilde said in this connection that this trade is to underline that the Somalian’s loyalty is limited to their network back home.
OF COURSE! They send the money home because they want to stick the middle finger up at Danish society(!) It’s got nothing to do with their families living in god knows what conditions. It’s got nothing to do with continuing to love relatives after moving away from them. It’s all about disrespecting DENMARK(!)
Jyllands-Posten tells us further that the Somalians do extremely poorly in the labour market and they isolate themselves in ghettos, where they can continue their Somalian life, completely without connection to us others.
Didn’t another report just recently tell us that ghettos are caused by white-flight? You know. White people being racist and moving away from Somalis because they don’t want any connection with them.
Hasn’t “doing poorly” in the labour market at least a little to do with Danish employers having prejudices against Somalians for some reason? (God knows where they would get prejudices about Somalians from)
Don’t all Danish families isolate themselves so they can continue their Danish life, completely without connection to us others? Why is it different when a Somalian family does the same?
For me, who has read Aayan Hirsi-Ali’s books and has interviewed the strong and brave women, amongst other things about this peculiar Somalian world, the Jyllands-Posten article with this shocking information makes me wonder.
So all Somalis are the same. Except the brave, strong ones. Except the writer ones. The rest of them are the same. All of them.
- I wonder why we even have Somalian residents in this country, when they don’t have the least interest in Denmark or in the Danish people.
Refugees. They are refugees. They are fleeing for their lives. It’s really not about “you” or “interest”, it’s about your country offering to take in a certain number of refugees so they don’t die.
- I am surprised that Denmark entertains and supports a giant group of people who only have contempt for us and our way of life.
Even if that were true. Even if you could say that approximately 17 000 people have exactly the same beliefs. Even if you could say that those beliefs about this country were “contemptuous” or “scornful”, it’s really not about that.
Taking in refugees and asylum seekers isn’t about their gratitude afterwards. It’s about fulfilling international obligations and basic human compassion for those in need.
Besides, what you have described as your evidence for contempt: the parallel society, ghettos, sending money home etc is more accurately described as “disinterest”.
- I wonder why the Somalians don’t just go home when all their life, journeys, thoughts, language -and work in general – is in Somalia.
- Yes, I wonder what the hell 16 943 Somalians are even doing in Denmark.
I expect you do, Søren. I expect you wonder about that a lot. I expect your lack of thoughtfulness, logic and basic human compassion does lead you to those thoughts.
Why the hell don’t you ask a Somalian instead of “wondering” aloud on your soapbox, you stupid self righteous prick?
Now, of course Søren Espersen has the right to express himself and Jyllands-Posten have the right to publish but holy shit, guys. This is the basest form of hate speech. How on earth isn’t there a health warning all over this? Have we become so inured to racism that this is acceptable? Have we become so inured to poor argumentation that this is not laughable?
Not only is it poorly argued and constructed but it lacks basic insight into the issue. It is total garbage.
The original article about the tax evading Somalis was irresponsible, given how many Danish-background tax evaders there are in comparison.
What sort of impression do JP wish to give of the Somali community when they highlight the actions of a minority of a minority in such terms? And never one to be left out, several papers even “left wing” ones, have covered the story in exactly these terms. And you know the drill: “What!? They ARE Somalian. It’s not RACIST to describe them as Somalian when they ARE.”
Perhaps not. But it is certainly irresponsible to portray the entire Somalian population as cheats.
There are just under 17000 Somalians in the country and 269 of them cheated on their taxes. That’s a tax fraud level of just 1.5% in the Somalian community.
98.5% Somalians are honest in their tax affairs. And that’s not news?
I would DEARLY like to know the stats for Danish-background tax evasion. A study in 2006 showed that 8.4% of people living in Denmark gave too little in tax, and about 1% of those were deliberate cheats.
A more recent study found (but this also did not exclude immigrant groups):-
“that the tax evasion rate is very small (0.3%) for income subject to third-party reporting, but substantial (37%) for self-reported income. Since 95% of all income is third-party reported, the overall evasion rate is very modest.”
It goes on to make the point
“overall tax evasion is low, not because taxpayers are unwilling to cheat, but because they are unable to cheat successfully due to the widespread use of third-party reporting.”
The article about the parallel society, again is trolling of the worst kind. It is not available on the Internet but I have access to all newspaper articles in Denmark because of my job.
All it does is innocently set out the findings of Shahamak Rezaei (from a paper that is not available publicly), that Somalians send money home and perhaps have more connection to their families than Danish society, right next to articles about Somalian tax evasion.
Free speech is one thing but this is a terrible abuse of it. It is a deliberate and cunning way to get nice people like my mother-in-law to see problems with the Somali community when before she might have taken each Somalian she met on their own merits. It is a malicious way of allowing “people” like Søren Espersen to innocently inquire “Why don’t they GO HOME?”
It is racist. It is lazy. And it is dangerous.
- Racism in the Danish Press (adventuresandjapes.wordpress.com)